Saturday, January 07, 2006

Questions for the Catholics:

Laura came up with some good questions. I couldn't answer them. The Catechism couldn't either. That's right. What do you have to say now Vatican fathers?

If the Church teaches that Mary remained a virgin even after Jesus' birth, how come we don't also hear about her husband, the ever-virgin Joseph?

And, if they remained ever-virgin, doesn't that mean they weren't married? Because you need to consumate in order to be married. At least, that's what I told Laura...


Our little pony-tailed girl growed up to be a woman

9 comments:

Gina said...

Suds in the Bucket- Sara Evans

Ben said...

I'm confused. How could Mary have remained a virgin after Jesus's birth if Jesus had brothers like James?

Matthew B. Novak said...

The argument on that is that their language did not differentiate between cousins and brothers, and that the "brother" references in the New Testament were actually cousin references. I haven't looked into this for a while, but if I recall correctly there is both linguistic and historical support for the idea. Maybe one of those theology folks I know out there could look into this a little more?

Ben said...

Hmmmm, suppose a Protestant like me shouldn't even be commenting on this post. I'm clearly out of my depth.

Matthew B. Novak said...

No, I think a protestant view can be helpful on these sorts of questions. Your input and questions are more than welcome.

the marvelous patric said...

i always just assumed she was just a virgin when he was born, but after that... well... you've seen dogma.

gary said...

I saw this play once. Joseph was an older guy, widowed I believe, and his friends laughed at him because he'd been cuckolded. But he stood by Mary, believing her. And lo and behold, she gave birth and sure enough, still virgin.

As for consumation. The Jesuits told me that husband and wife could enroll in religious orders as long as they lived as brother and sister. (Looking for a loophole, I asked if Kentuckian brothers and sisters would be okay.)

Anonymous said...

According to the History channel, Vatican policy is that it is consent and not sex that makes a marraige, ie absence of sex is not sufficient grounds for anullment.

btnovak said...

In the overall scheme of salvation does it make a difference?